Join the queens of Season 6 — Natalie Lamb, Jamie Smith, Hanan Merabi, Tedrah Paul, Shawnti Refuge, and Kimberly Christian — as they bring the 12th Street Talk Backs season to a grand finale!Find their contact information below:
Natalie Lamb: www.natalielamb.meItsyourchoice
Tedrah Paul: stan.store/lifecoachtedrahpaul@heavenlysisterscircle
Hanan Merabi: thelegacyisme.com@earthangels.org
Kimberly Christian: @kimberlychristianlcswThe Christian Method
Shawnti Refuge: @shawntirefugejournalsJamie Smith: jamiesnotebook.com
[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome ladies to the show.
[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I am so excited to have you guys for my season finale of Queens Table Talk 1 and All.
[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's do our cheers and clap for the ladies in the field today.
[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I have next to me Hanan Mirabe.
[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_08]: We've got Natalie Lamb in the building.
[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_08]: We have Jamie Smith in the building.
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_08]: And we have Tandra Paul.
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome one and all.
[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_08]: How are you guys doing today?
[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Doing well.
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm excited to have you guys in the building.
[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I am excited to have you in the building.
[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, we got people already in the building.
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome Chronicles of Virgo.
[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome Intellectual Soap Bouts.
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, Ms. Reread.
[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you guys for joining the show.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Share, share, share with your friends.
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[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_08]: So guys, starting with you Hanan,
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_08]: introduce yourself to the people and tell them what you do.
[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me.
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Once again, this is my second time speaking with you
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and so appreciate the platform.
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Like you said, my name is Hanan Mirabe.
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I am dialing in from ATL.
[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I am the founder of Earth Angels nonprofit organization
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_06]: and the legacy is me.
[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So happy to be here.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks again.
[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_08]: You're welcome.
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Next we have Natalie Lam.
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Introduce yourself to the people, Natalie.
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Lutoria.
[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you again for having me.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's such a pleasure.
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We had such an amazing talk the first time.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So excited to hear what everyone brings to the table.
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a life relationship and brief coach as well as an author.
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's enough for now.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: We can jump into more as we keep moving on.
[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Next, we have up the beautiful, the lovely Jamie Smith.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie, introduce yourself to the people.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jamie Smith and I live in Northwest Arkansas.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I am a writer, small business owner and an author.
[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The reason I differentiate between writer and authors.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I write for other people, but then I also just published my first book.
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Yay.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And last but not least, we have the fabulous Tantra Paul in the
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_08]: building.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Tantra introduce yourself to the people.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Hi everyone.
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry my camera's not on it was moving a bit dodgy earlier.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So we got to work with what we've got.
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: My name is Tantra.
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I am a Christian and relationship coach.
[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And I work with women all over the world helping them grow their
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: relationship with God and, you know, grow who they are and find
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_05]: their purpose on this earth that we live on.
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And we have one more that's coming into the building shortly
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_08]: shanti refuge for you guys that don't know shanti shanti was
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_08]: on the show previously.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_08]: She is an author.
[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_08]: She is a life coach and she has there as well as journals.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_08]: So she'll be joining us shortly.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: So ladies, everybody's from different time zones.
[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And I am so glad that you guys were able to fit me into your
[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_08]: schedule.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to jump right in for the sake of time.
[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_08]: So as you guys know, I'm Victoria J.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm the host of 12 street talk back.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I am a minister and I'm all around just good person.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to see the best in people.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_08]: And I believe that God has me on a journey to bring people
[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_08]: together to help heal.
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I went through a healing journey.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm still going through a healing journey.
[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's the purpose of this show.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: He redirected the show for the need of the people and we are
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_08]: all kingdom kids.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So let's help one another out.
[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's grow together today.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I wanted to bring a group of ladies together because these
[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_08]: ladies were on the show this season and we had wonderful,
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_08]: wonderful conversations.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_08]: But I want to dig in a little bit more.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: So my first question for you guys is how does it feel being
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_08]: a woman at this time in your life?
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[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_08]: women, what would it be?
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[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say that it's exciting to see women's movement
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: that we have.
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, there's always more steps that we need to
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: take and I believe we will be able to take but it's
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: exciting to see that we are crushing many of the
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: things that blocked us from going forward.
[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's becoming more and acceptance of women
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: being able to stand firm, tall, intelligent, amazing,
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: taking up space.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Years before we were kind of taught not to take up
[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_03]: space.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So we are loudly taking the space unapologetically
[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_03]: and showing forth that as we take up the space,
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_03]: we can not just, you know, I don't want to say dominate
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the space because I don't think that's necessarily the
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: choice.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that we stand, you know, in equality and equity
[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: with everyone else that's in the room.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: To the point of what do I want to leave behind?
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I have two daughters.
[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So what I always have taught them and one of them
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: to carry is that one, you get to take up space.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Two, you get to pivot as much as you need to pivot.
[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a true believer in writing your own definitions of
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_03]: what success is, what beauty is, what it is to be a woman.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And so write that definition and rewrite it as many times
[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_03]: as you need until you get where you want to be and feel
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_03]: content and confident in that space to be honest and
[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: have integrity and to value yourself.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, one of the things I have always told my daughters is
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I want you when you wake up to be able to look in the mirror
[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: and feel proud, but I also want when you come home that
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_03]: you can look in the mirror and still feel proud.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And those are choices that you make.
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So when you honor your choices, right?
[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And the power in a choice, right?
[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That we get to move in a way that shakes the foundation
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and it ships us to the positions that we want to be in.
[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think in all aspects, you know, relationships,
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: career, our walk with God, I think all of that,
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: the definition underneath is I get to choose
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and I get to own my choices.
[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I keep pivoting until I become the person
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: that I am most proud of.
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I had the pleasure of talking to you in the middle
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_08]: of the summer and you said the exact same thing.
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I thought you were going to mention there that you wrote two
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_08]: books to your daughters.
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that when I talk to you about things that you wanted
[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_08]: them to know about you, you left that behind for them
[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and I thought that was amazing that you did that.
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's caught what I want you to know.
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's under the wisdom chronicles.
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be like six or seven books in that.
[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: The first one was called Open Your Eyes was just generic
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: for everyone.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: The second one is called What I Want You to Know
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and it was written for them over the lifetime that I had them.
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: My oldest is 23 and I just published it a year ago
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: and it really was just wisdoms.
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I want them to carry in case I wasn't here.
[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: When they got a certain age, they would have that
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: information in hand to help them help guide them.
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that idea.
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I did.
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_08]: That stuck with me.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Hanna, how about you?
[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_06]: So for me being raised in Ghana and having been a product
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_06]: of two cultures that are very male dominant dominated.
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So both my Lebanese culture, so I'm Arab and Ghanaian,
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Arab and Black Nix.
[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So West African culture and Arab culture,
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_06]: both very strong male dominated.
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And then too on top of it all, I was orphaned.
[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_06]: So not only did I was I in that kind of environment,
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_06]: but then I lost my shell, you know,
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: being orphaned is like a turtle without a shell.
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_06]: And so it was layers, layers of suppression and oppression,
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_06]: if you will.
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And so my, my legacy.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And what I, one of the things that one of my strongest message
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_06]: is that self belief can get you through everything.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_06]: And self belief is the reason I'm here today.
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_06]: My message is about sharing what you can do alone and what you
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_06]: can do without support.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, many people have great parents and amazing grandparents
[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_06]: and you know, you hear phenomenal stories of someone came in
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_06]: and helped me or oh, I had this amazing boss and leader that
[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_06]: showed me this or that.
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_06]: My story is that I didn't have any of those things.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And yet I made it.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I share with women, especially young women that they
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_06]: can too.
[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_06]: And that if you believe in yourself and that if you,
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_06]: um, you want something enough, you can attain,
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_06]: you can conquer, you can survive, you can make it not
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_06]: just survive but thrive.
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And so my whole, you know, my 42 years has been a
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_06]: testament to just that.
[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And so my followers, my the people I speak to,
[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_06]: those that support me, that is I think the number one
[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_06]: message I stand for is that you can make it even when you
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_06]: don't have the support that we all need.
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_06]: And so, um, and not just make it but be successful.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So, and that's to women, that's to men,
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_06]: that's to everybody out there.
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but I think primarily young women look at me
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: and think, wow, like if she made it, I can too.
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and so that is, I think I answered both your
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: questions and not answer.
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I was, I've heard it before but that was amazing.
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean the resilience for one, because I know this
[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_08]: story for those of you guys that haven't heard
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Hanan's story, you definitely have to go over to
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_08]: our YouTube channel and watch her and Nellis
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: conversation, fabulous, fabulous women.
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, looks like we had a Shanti refuge pop in the
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: building and we got Kimberly coming as well.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So guys, I don't know if it's my internet or
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_08]: their internet but Lord work with us.
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, the next we have in the house we have,
[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: um, well before I introduce Jamie, welcome,
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_08]: welcome, welcome Shanti, how are you?
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm good, how are you? Thank you for having me.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_08]: You're welcome, you're welcome.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I already gave your kind of, uh, introductory.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, we've got one more coming in.
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Kimberly Christian will be in and she's also a,
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_08]: she's actually a therapist.
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and a like a Christian life coach.
[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_08]: So she'll be joining us shortly.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie Smith, you're next.
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_08]: So how is it for you being a woman then this
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: day in time?
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and if anything,
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_08]: what could you leave behind for your young people?
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: The, I hate this answer,
[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_02]: but I would say it's complicated because on,
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_02]: on many fronts I feel like, um,
[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_02]: as women we're really learning to,
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: as the other ladies have shared,
[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_02]: take up space into owner stories.
[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I'd love to see more of that and have it be less
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: of a, less of a thing if that makes sense.
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, instead of being a remarkable unusual thing,
[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: have it be the norm?
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Have it be, um,
[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_02]: something where we're seen as equals.
[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I know we're seeing the as equals in the eyes of God.
[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but in how we communicate and how we tell our stories,
[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to be,
[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to see more of that and see that grow.
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and as far as what I feel like I want,
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: what I can help pass on,
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to read to you my missions,
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_02]: my life mission statement.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's also my business mission statement.
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it says to inspire people towards better self-awareness
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and ownership of their inherent value,
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_02]: core beliefs and purpose through my own personal vulnerability,
[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_02]: storytelling and leadership.
[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I want to see is by being vulnerable
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and being willing to share my story that that inspires others
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_02]: to be able to look at themselves and see what their value is
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and what their core beliefs are and what,
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: how those two, uh, shape who they are
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and what they bring to the world.
[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Wow.
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_08]: That's a mouthful.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Hold on.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't ask me a question if you want a short answer.
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you did.
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think it was complicated at all because I know you
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and we've had great conversations.
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_08]: So that, that sounds right about it, but right about you.
[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, your heart is so big and you love God so much.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_08]: So I kind of expected that response from you.
[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_08]: So, Tedra, uh, how do you feel about being a woman in this time?
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what?
[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I kind of agree with Jamie and I love being a woman
[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_05]: in this time in life because there's so much.
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like there's so much growth happening as women.
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_05]: We're really developing ourselves and we're really maturing
[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and finding who we are where I think like back in the day,
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_05]: a lot of people, a lot of women didn't stand up for themselves
[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_05]: and they didn't know their rights and things like that.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's important to understand that as much,
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_05]: like I see a lot of women saying, I want to do this.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do that.
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I really want a stronger relationship with God.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I really want, you know, to have those friends that are there
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_05]: for me that support me.
[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, you say you want it, but you're not taking
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: the step forward to actually do those things.
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all well and great for us to sit here and say, yeah,
[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I want this, I want that, I want this.
[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_05]: God will provide yes, but we also have to put in the work
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_05]: and actually stand up and say, this is what I need to do
[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_05]: to get to where I am so that I can make this life
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: that God has given me the best that I can.
[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, that's mine.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Excellent.
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_08]: My true Tedra.
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_08]: My true Tedra.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Shanti refuge.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to introduce yourself to the people and the question
[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_08]: was how do you feel being a woman at this time in your life
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and what is anything would you like to leave behind to impact
[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_08]: our young women?
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, again, thank you for having me.
[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Shanti refuge.
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_07]: No problem.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I am a certified mental health coach, mental health advocate,
[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_07]: female speaker and author, and I help women to release heal
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_07]: and thrive with the article guided journaling.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_07]: To answer your question, reflecting on being a woman at this
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_07]: time in my life, I feel a mix of strength, resilience
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_07]: and a deep sense of responsibility.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I've navigated through significant challenges and I continue
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_07]: to grow from them.
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I've been a woman for a long time and it's taught me the
[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_07]: importance of self love, authenticity and mental
[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_07]: wellness.
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_07]: And what I like to leave behind for our future young women is
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_07]: the message that they are enough as they are.
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I want them to understand the power of self discovery
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_07]: through journaling and the importance of prioritizing
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_07]: our mental health and the value of kindness to themselves.
[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_07]: And I hope to inspire them by helping them to embrace their
[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_07]: vulnerabilities and strengths and to know that they don't have
[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_07]: to conform to anyone's expectations in order to feel
[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_07]: worthy.
[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_07]: And if they can learn to truly love and accept themselves,
[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_07]: then they can change the world and maybe even the world
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_07]: around them.
[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Amazing responses, ladies.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_08]: All of you guys, I mean just with the personal conversations
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I've had with all of you, I kind of expected along the lines
[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_08]: of this.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, for me, I think getting the message out there is
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_08]: the most important part of my life right now.
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Getting God's word out there if I could leave them behind
[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_08]: anything is for them to have a relationship with their
[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Heavenly Father.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_08]: That's my mission statement right now.
[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_08]: For me being a woman right now, God has brought me so far.
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't believe that I'm sitting here right now.
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_08]: In fact, I was just thinking that as I was looking at all of
[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_08]: you guys show up individually that, you know,
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_08]: God really, we really don't know the thoughts that he has
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: for us because this would have never been a turn that I
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_08]: took in my life.
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And look, I'm here with six amazing women and I thought
[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I was going to be in the corporate world all my life
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and retail and make up and clothes and hair.
[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_08]: But you never know the twists and turns that he takes you
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and for me, I think that I don't want to cry,
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_08]: but I'm a big old crybaby.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I love the fact that he touched me and he's using me
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's developing me.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_08]: So if I can leave anything behind is his word,
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: his love that I got they love,
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_08]: not the stuff that the world is given to us,
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_08]: but that real authentic love of Jesus Christ.
[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_08]: So that's my mission.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh gosh, Kimberly just text.
[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_08]: She's coming in in just a minute.
[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So we'll have one more pop in.
[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's move on to the next one.
[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I kind of threw something in there after that question.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I wanted you guys to tell me because I don't know if it's going
[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_08]: on here pretty much.
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: It's going on everywhere.
[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_08]: What barriers do you guys think that we can break down in our
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_08]: educational system as women?
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We've got a lot going on in our educational system.
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_08]: We all know about all the horrific shootings that
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_08]: happened in so many different states and around the world.
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_08]: But right now coming out of the pandemic,
[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I have a lot of educators in my family and friends and they're
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_08]: having it rough trying to get our children,
[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_08]: our young people to adjust back to getting back to what the
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_08]: normal school system look like.
[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_08]: What kind of barriers do you think that we can contribute from
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: the outside to help our educators get them where they need to be?
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: So I think one of the teachers put it best that I know
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_08]: there are little bit rambunctious and it hasn't stopped since the
[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_08]: pandemic.
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll start with you, Shanti.
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_08]: What do you think that we should we could contribute?
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: There are a lot of barriers that are in place when it comes
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_07]: to that and especially as a woman,
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_07]: some of them one thing I know gender bias and STEM.
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_07]: That's one of the most significant barriers and it
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_07]: discourages girls from pursuing careers in science,
[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_07]: technology, engineering and math.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think we need more girl friendly STEM education.
[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think we could as a representation of women create
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_07]: membership programs, push for curriculum changes and
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_07]: so girls could see themselves as working in the success of STEM
[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_07]: because we're smart.
[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Let's face it, we're smarter than men anyway.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So we know we are, you know, but they need to push and they
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_07]: need to see people who look like them,
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_07]: you know, so they can be like, okay, well she can do it.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I can do it.
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, you can.
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Access to resources.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_07]: That's another thing.
[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of economic disparities and girls,
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_07]: especially in underprivileged communities that don't have the
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_07]: same access to educational like technology, tutoring,
[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_07]: you know, a lot of those things like tutoring and
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_07]: technology, those are, you know, for paid.
[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_07]: And a lot of the girls that are in underprivileged
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_07]: communities, they can afford that.
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_07]: So we need to make it more accessible.
[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_07]: We address sexual harassment and violence, you know,
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_07]: it's also going to be a safe place for our kids to learn.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I know when I was going to school, it was a safe place.
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And I can't say that it is, you know, these days because,
[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_07]: you know, things like you said, stuff that's going on.
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And now we have, you know, teachers being inappropriate with
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_07]: students.
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not just, you know, males, females do it too.
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_07]: And we have to combat that.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's the best thing.
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, so as women, we could push for a stronger policy,
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_07]: stronger support systems and then respect,
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_07]: on consent.
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_07]: We're sure the schools are safe.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Who wants to send our child to school and it's not safe.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's why a lot of people are starting to home
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_07]: school now.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I had a girlfriend at home school for 20 years.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And you just see so much.
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I always say that I'm thankful that I don't have any small
[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_08]: young ones in school right now.
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I know, Tedra, you got little ones.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_08]: How do you feel about the barriers and the things that
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_08]: we're facing in the school system right now?
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's the biggest thing.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like, this is a conversation we're having with
[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_05]: all my siblings there that it because all of us,
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_05]: we've got like kids in the same age.
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And we're just so like, I hate to,
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's so scary to think about all the things that
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: are going to be happening.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Like you're saying like everything that happens in these
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_05]: schools, like you send them to school and you're scared
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and you're like, what are they going to learn today?
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_05]: What's going to happen?
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_05]: How they're going to behave?
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_05]: How they're going to be treated?
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And you have all these questions going on.
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like there's not a lot that we can do.
[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_05]: We can't control what the government decides,
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_05]: what people are doing, what they say, how they're going
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_05]: to act.
[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_05]: But what we can do is we can teach them right and wrong.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_05]: We can always remind them that at any given time
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_05]: you can talk to God, say a prayer.
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And for us as parents, it's important to pray for our kids.
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_05]: It's important to pray for them and remind them
[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and just ask God to protect them and to help them
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_05]: get through these next 12 years of education
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and help them to overcome everything that they're
[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_05]: going to go through because it's sad,
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_05]: but there's not much that we can do about it.
[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm one person, I can say something,
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_05]: but then there'll be 10 people behind me that want the other
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: thing to say is, I think it's such a tough one.
[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really tough.
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's the world that we live in now with
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_08]: everything, not just with the school.
[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_08]: It's hard to push your agenda.
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I think all of us have something that we're trying to get
[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_08]: out there into the world and it is hard.
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_08]: It takes a fist, a mighty fist like our parents used to tell us.
[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_08]: It takes a group of people.
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_08]: What about you, Natalie?
[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_08]: What do you think?
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_08]: What are some of the barriers that you think?
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think my, so I think what we,
[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: if we look at it as a whole holistic thing
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_03]: and across the board, I think as the education system,
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: we never have tried to really build up children.
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that we have pushed knowledge and get this answer
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and move in that direction,
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: but we never really pushed emotional intelligence,
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: teaching them the respect one to another,
[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_03]: how to navigate when you are feeling uneasy,
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_03]: when you're angry, how to deal with your emotions.
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Not that teachers already have a lot,
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: right?
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_03]: They have the curriculum that they have to teach,
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: but I think for like each individual class,
[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I think if teachers learn how to with the curriculum,
[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_03]: add it in, teaching emotional intelligence,
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_03]: teaching them how to soothe themselves,
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_03]: teaching them self-regulation and emotional regulation.
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we would see a pivot even in each classroom,
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_03]: but children are not given those kinds of education, right?
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And in all the years that education has been created,
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: we have stuck with the same platform for, you know,
[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_03]: however many years it's been created,
[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: but we need to pivot that because it's not working anymore.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You interject when you talked about COVID, right?
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And how that change happened.
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you had where now I don't have to be as regulated.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm at home just with myself and my siblings who I'm used to
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: or I'm just home alone
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and I can move at whatever phonetic speed I want to move.
[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_03]: You interject then, social media and the quickness of it.
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we are now raising children with such quick emotions.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You sit there and scrolling as an adult as well, right?
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: We go from happy to sad to laughing or crying to within the
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: matter of five, 10 minutes,
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: you could feel almost a full gamut of emotions that humans
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: house, but what do you do with that?
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just quick.
[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's moving.
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's never settled.
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So a part of what we need to do is teach people how to separate
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: themselves, how to calm themselves within their space
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and only you can be responsible for that.
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But if we teach children,
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: we're talking about children, how to pause, right?
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: How to identify what's going on within them
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and then to choose appropriately
[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_03]: because again, choice is everything.
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_03]: We can change how we move not just as children
[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's lessons that adults need as well
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: because we don't know how to fall.
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: We barely know how to be self-regulated, right?
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We fly off the handle at the moment
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_03]: that something happens and then I'm asking children
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: whose minds are not fully developed
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_03]: to be more advanced than the adults that are around them.
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So if I look at the children,
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I must look at the adults around them
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: because they're getting their cues
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and understanding from somebody.
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They're not just creating it out of thin air
[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_03]: but if we don't attach to two, right?
[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The adults and the children.
[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And we emphasize on educating adults
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: as much as we educate children.
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I think we will always fall in this little abyss
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_03]: that we find ourselves in
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: that the answer to the change is much more layered
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I think than we want it to be
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: because we would love to throw all of it on children
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: and us not consuming it.
[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Right, right.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I always look at it like
[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_08]: we're walking around in the wilderness right now.
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_08]: It seems like after the pandemic,
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_08]: nothing went back the same
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and I know people use that as a means
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_08]: is never gonna be the same
[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_08]: but we are the structure that we used to have
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_08]: in the classroom.
[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm seeing it across the board,
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_08]: in the news, different things going on.
[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Teachers getting beat up and it's just a lot to intake.
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_08]: So I think as Tedra was saying,
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_08]: it's gonna take more than one person to change it
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's not just the children.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_08]: It is educating the parents as well.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_08]: What about you Jamie?
[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_08]: You're a writer and your mind is always going.
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_08]: What do you think about that?
[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I come from a different perspective a little bit
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_02]: in that I don't have kids.
[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not actively involved in the school system
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but much of my career has actually been covering
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: the education system through journalism.
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And so what I see from the outside looking in
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: is a growing movement towards,
[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_02]: away from cooperation and communication.
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like there's more of a,
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_02]: with the schools and with families,
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it's more of a us versus them dynamic
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_02]: instead of a collaborative.
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_02]: And they always say that they wanna do more collaboration
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and they wanna work with each other
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm not seeing that happening.
[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think more collaboration on values
[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_02]: because we that we like it or not,
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_02]: our kids are, you know,
[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: or people's kids are gonna be learning values
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_02]: in the school system
[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_02]: because they're there for eight hours a day.
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, if we start collaborating more
[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: on values like respect,
[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like don't talk back to the teacher,
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: like someone said, don't hit the teacher.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: That to me would have never occurred to me
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: as a child to hit my teacher.
[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that that's something that,
[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think that's also the woman in me coming out
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: is that I want us to communicate better
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and collaborate better instead of fighting
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: against each other and having it always being
[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_02]: this us versus them scenario.
[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I think I picked that up in a documentary
[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_08]: that I was watching last weekend.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_08]: It was a history documentary on Moses
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and they were breaking it down
[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and they had all these scholars,
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean from all around the world
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and they all came to the same conclusion
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_08]: that God was trying to teach them
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_08]: when he brought them out of Egypt
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_08]: how to work together, how to have the same faith.
[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's the bulk of it.
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Natalie, you said it.
[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Tedra, you said it in your own way.
[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie, you just said it in your own way.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Shanti, you said it in your own way.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_08]: We've got to get focused on
[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_08]: how can we get back together, togetherness?
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Because one person can't do everything.
[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's what the directions were going.
[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_08]: My mother used to have all these little sayings
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_08]: where you know, you're going left and I'm going right.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's what it is.
[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going, some are going left,
[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_08]: some are going right.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_08]: There's no room to talk.
[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I learned something through my last three years.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_08]: This journey is I was answering
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and listening to combat instead of listen just to listen.
[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I may didn't have to agree with everything.
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_08]: My children or someone else was saying
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: but I was listening to combat
[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_08]: because I was taught that old school way.
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Old school, old...
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Old mother.
[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that we've passed that.
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think now it's time for us to focus on,
[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: okay, I've heard you.
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_08]: It's like tug of war.
[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_08]: You pulled this way, we pulled this way.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Now how can we all meet in the middle
[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and get something done to help our educators?
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I posed that question for the educators
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_08]: because they are the ones that went to school,
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_08]: rolled up their sleeve
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and some of them don't even have children
[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and having to deal with our children in this day and age.
[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: And I don't know about you guys in North Carolina,
[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_08]: substitutes and bus drivers.
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, we have had so many teachers quit
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_08]: that we've got more substitutes
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_08]: than we have teachers in the classroom right now.
[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_08]: We have more kids not getting home on the bus
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_08]: because we don't have bus drivers
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_08]: because adults are afraid for their lives
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_08]: because if a fight breaks out on the bus,
[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_08]: they don't wanna be the one to break it up
[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_08]: or they don't wanna get body slammed
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_08]: like we saw the teacher in Florida a couple of years ago
[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_08]: by someone that may or may not have a disability,
[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_08]: but still it's still togetherness.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I did a piece a long time ago about
[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_08]: if your child does have something like a disability,
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_08]: it should be a former communication there
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: with the school system first.
[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_08]: This is how I handle Billy at home, if this was to occur.
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_08]: This is how I handle Nicole at home
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_08]: because you know she's special needs.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like saying special needs,
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_08]: but she's not like the rest.
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_08]: So with that being saying, if we don't have that dialogue,
[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_08]: we're going into the school systems right now
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and some of it is kind of like children,
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_08]: raised in children because myself,
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't start maturing until I hit my 40s
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and my mother used to tell me that
[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and I used to spaz out like I'm growing, I'm grown,
[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_08]: but really I wasn't grown mentally
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything started to come together in my late 40s.
[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_08]: So I think it also has a lot to do
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_08]: with the brain maturing as well,
[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but we can have some of these hard conversations
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_08]: that nobody wants to have.
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_08]: What about you, Henan?
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause I know you have.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So I have kids.
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a glass half full kind of girl.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_06]: So I agree with everything everyone said,
[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_06]: but I also see the other side.
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And let me tell you, kids are so much smarter now.
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_06]: My 12, my 13 year old son knows more than me
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_06]: in terms of when I was at his age,
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_06]: not street smarts cause that I beat him any day
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_06]: because my life was hard,
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_06]: but in terms of information,
[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_06]: in terms of the way I was raised,
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_06]: a math whiz in terms of,
[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_06]: in terms of science like back of his hand,
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_06]: in terms of his phone, in terms of IT.
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I went to a graduation a few months ago
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_06]: and there were 15 valedictorians from that high school.
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_06]: 15, have you heard of that before?
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_06]: I haven't, I heard of one, I've heard of two,
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I've heard of three tying.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I have never heard of 15.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_06]: They all had over 4.0s.
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Kids are smart these days.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_06]: So don't make that mistake and think that,
[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_06]: oh, some things are better than they were
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and some things are worse.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Like kids speak up now.
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Back in the day we did not speak up.
[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Just like you were saying, I mean,
[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_06]: like we've all said,
[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_06]: we were all shushed and quieted and right?
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a generational thing.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It was an age thing.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It was a cultural thing.
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_06]: But regardless of your culture,
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_06]: things are different now.
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Children have choices.
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Children get to speak.
[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_06]: We were seen and not heard back in the day,
[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_06]: especially in my life.
[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, being orphaned,
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_06]: nobody cared what I had to say.
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't know what I liked and didn't like
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_06]: until I was 18 and that was just food.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, oh, I actually don't like raw broccoli.
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_06]: I was 18 when I figured that out.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_06]: So I think that it's not okay to generalize
[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_06]: and I think that there are some incredible stories
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_06]: out there of brilliant children today.
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I think a big part of it is the parents
[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_06]: and the parents were raised the old school way.
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_06]: So it makes you think something wasn't right
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_06]: in the old school way, you know?
[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_06]: Because the parents are in their 20s and their 30s.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Some of them are in their 40s
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_06]: and you meet incredible children.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_06]: You meet incredible teachers.
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You walk through remarkable schools.
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_06]: But I believe in the power of one.
[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_06]: So what can I do?
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_06]: What can I do to make a difference in my little space
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_06]: and what can I do?
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I can raise my children right.
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I can teach them to respect.
[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I can teach them to be kind.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_06]: I can teach them to see something, say something, be brave.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_06]: You see mommy, be brave my whole life.
[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_06]: This is what I've shown you.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_06]: This is the best gift we can give our children
[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_06]: is for them to be brave.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_06]: For them to say, no, I don't want that.
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, thank you, no, thank you.
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't do that.
[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, that is such a gift
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_06]: to raise your children with that bravery
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_06]: or for them to see what bravery looks like.
[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's what I do is that I lead by example.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_06]: I show my children how I talk to others,
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_06]: how I treat others, what kindness looks like,
[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_06]: what self-assertion looks like.
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Their school is a five out of 10.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_06]: We live in the country in Cartersville, Georgia.
[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Their schools are five out of 10.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_06]: But guess what?
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_06]: My kids are A students.
[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_06]: They are 10 out of 10 kids
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_06]: because their mother raised them that way.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_06]: And so the teacher is supplementing what I already gave.
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And I didn't come with, oh, my parents did
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_06]: or I had the best or no.
[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_06]: I juiced from all that I knew
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and everything that I've lived
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_06]: and I'm giving it to my children.
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what we can do.
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you're into government and into state
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_06]: because really state level
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_06]: is where all the important rules are made.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So yes, you should try and rally for those things
[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_06]: that matter in the state government.
[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_06]: But if you don't have that kind of power
[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_06]: but you have children,
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_06]: then you need to teach them to be kind, to be respectful
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_06]: because a lot of our problems are that the children,
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_06]: those that have been mentioned at least today.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_06]: Now some barriers that I have faced
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_06]: are like my kids are lumped in with the bad kids.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_06]: So like my kids who would never heard of fly
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_06]: who are really good boys
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_06]: who do what they're told, who get 4.0s,
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_06]: who get their A's, their homeworks and everything done.
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_06]: They're told to just keep quiet, follow the rules.
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_06]: It's militant, the school is run militantly.
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_06]: But I get it, it's because they don't want
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_06]: all the bad things that you all mentioned to happen.
[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So my barrier is rather the opposite.
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I wish the teachers and the school
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_06]: would relax a little bit on my kids
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_06]: because it's so like regimented.
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_06]: You sit down, you work all day, eight hours
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_06]: and like somebody said, it is regimented.
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_06]: It's you know the answer or you don't.
[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_06]: My 13 year old son is doing math that I did in college.
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_06]: Make no mistake, these children are brilliant.
[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's not that they're not getting the smarts
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_06]: and they're not getting the education and the background.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_06]: They are brilliant children.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_06]: The alpha generation is going to,
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_06]: they're going to change this world.
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I have no doubt, no doubt about it.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But there are barriers because yes,
[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_06]: they can pick up a phone and look at everything.
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_06]: But where's the mother?
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_06]: Where's the father?
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Where's the grandma?
[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Why aren't, why didn't you set limitations on the phone
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_06]: so the kid couldn't watch those things?
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, so yes, yes and you have to take control.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_06]: If you're a mother, if you're a father,
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_06]: if you're a parent, a grandparent, whatever,
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_06]: you know, the power of one is a beautiful thing.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Brilliant answers from all of you guys.
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I see it from all scales.
[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I think the way that I was looking at it a little bit
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_08]: before we move on to the next question was
[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_08]: like you said, the bad apples.
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_08]: And there's not really a bad apple
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_08]: because even if we're not a parent,
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_08]: we can show each other something different
[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and it may be you for instance
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_08]: or your children for instance,
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_08]: they can show them another way.
[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I do think that we have a lot of broken homes
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and a lot of conversations need to be had
[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe even with the parents.
[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Mostly you guys up here are life coaches or therapists.
[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So you see that brokenness all day
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_08]: of not being able to communicate
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and I think that's a big thing.
[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I know we have some brilliant kids out here.
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I've got a niece that almost what, six years ago,
[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_08]: graduate when you said have I ever seen someone,
[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_08]: 15 valedictorians graduate.
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_08]: She was one of them and she got a full ride
[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_08]: to Texas A&M and now she's a veterinarian.
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And when I saw that,
[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I had never seen anything like that in my life.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_08]: 15.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really remarkable.
[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_06]: It's really remarkable how smart these kids are.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_08]: So I think they are our future.
[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that the barrier,
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe we could be a little bit more hands on
[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_08]: whether we have kids or not
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_08]: and help them protect some of our educators.
[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_08]: They are leaders.
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_08]: If they don't lead the classroom,
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_08]: how are our children gonna have futures?
[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they can figure out some things on their own
[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_08]: but they're educators there for reasons.
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_08]: They're educators in the school system in college.
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_08]: They're there for a reason.
[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_08]: We've got mental therapists up here.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_08]: You guys are here for a reason.
[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I would never try to throw my hat in that room
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_08]: because I don't give the best advice
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_08]: but at the same token, you're here for a reason.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that all of us have a unique position to play
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_08]: when we start talking about things like this.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_08]: But I just thought maybe I would throw that in there
[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_08]: to see what you guys' perspective was.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_08]: But let's move on to with the massive layoffs
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_08]: that we had during the pandemic
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_08]: which was still going through,
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_08]: the dual-ended benefits, high cost of housing,
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_08]: the economic situations and households
[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and just a whole genre of stuff.
[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_08]: How likely would you have someone
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: or give someone the advice to start a business?
[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause all of you guys have businesses.
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Whether it's a business, whether it's an organization,
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_08]: whether it's nonprofit or not.
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_08]: In this day and time,
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_08]: would you give somebody advice
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_08]: to start something like mental health coaching?
[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I know you, Shawnee,
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I see you all the time with your books
[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and Shawnee with your books
[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and you got your speaking events
[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and I know you, Henean, you've got your nonprofit,
[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Tedra, I see you all the time on social media as well.
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And Natalie, you have your life coaching and therapy.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Would you advise someone to open a business right now
[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_08]: especially women?
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause we don't have the backing that we should.
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_08]: We should have passed that hump a long time ago
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_08]: with the wage barriers and all this good stuff.
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_08]: And how do you guys feel about where we're at as women
[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_08]: in this society?
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Have we broke down those barriers
[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_08]: where we can walk into a financial backing we need
[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: or walk into the same field
[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_08]: and get paid as our male counterparts?
[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'll start with you, Tedra.
[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I think if you're gonna start a business right now
[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_05]: with everything going on,
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you really have to be committed
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think you really have to know
[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and understand that this is gonna be hard work.
[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_05]: This is gonna take a lot of energy
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and a lot of time especially in the beginning.
[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_05]: You're gonna get frustrated, you're gonna get angry
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_05]: and you have to be so prepared for those things
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: because what you don't want to do is go through all of that
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_05]: and put it on your partner, your husband,
[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_05]: your wife, your kids because it's a lot.
[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Running a business is a lot of work
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_05]: and when you have so much that you have to do
[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: so much things that God is putting in your heart to do,
[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_05]: it can feel draining but one thing I would say is
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_05]: it can also be the best decision you ever make.
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Like for me, starting my business was the best thing
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_05]: that ever happened to me because it grew my relationship
[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_05]: with God, it grew my relationship
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_05]: with my kids and my husband, it changed my life.
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there gonna be things that you struggle with
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_05]: like for example, you might not have the clients
[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_05]: that come in straight away
[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's not gonna happen straight away.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Best believe, the people that tell you, oh yeah do this
[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and then you'll be doing this within a month,
[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_05]: it's not gonna happen, that will be real with you,
[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_05]: it will not happen within a month
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: because there's a lot of growth
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_05]: that has to happen within you as a person
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's also a lot of growth
[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: that has to happen with your business
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and as you're developing all of those things,
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_05]: it's not an overnight thing.
[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I read something once that said,
[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_05]: it takes 10 years for your business to be massive or big
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_05]: and it can but you can also still happen
[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_05]: in two years or five years
[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_05]: but it takes a lot of commitment
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and it takes a lot of understanding
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_05]: if someone says no because not everybody's gonna say yes.
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You have to prepare yourself for that no
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and you have to prepare yourself
[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_05]: for seeing other people that in the same field
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_05]: as you doing better because they might have started
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_05]: a long, long time ago before you
[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: but at the same time their purpose
[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that God has given them is gonna be different
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_05]: to your purpose.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So you also have to, there's so much to understand
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_05]: and in terms of like getting paid as much as the men,
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I am sorry but I'm here for it.
[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_05]: My gender does not make you any different
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_05]: for you to be getting paid more than anyone.
[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we should be on the same,
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_05]: if I'm doing the same job as you,
[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I should be on the same wage as you
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_05]: irregardless to your gender.
[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we're doing the same thing.
[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_05]: If anything, I'm probably working harder
[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_05]: because my brain is working more
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_05]: because I'm leaving.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm thinking of the ABCD.
[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You as a manual, you're thinking A and Z
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and that's it.
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I met a woman, paid the same,
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_05]: we're on the same level.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not below you just because I am a woman.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_04]: No, we gotta be paid the same, definitely.
[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I agree and I needed some laughter.
[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome, welcome Kimberly, how are you today?
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, hi Queens.
[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad to see you guys.
[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Can I just tell you, I did this on purpose.
[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: This is how not to get invited next year.
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no, no, no, no.
[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And she's gonna say, oh my gosh, I don't think so.
[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Not like that.
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She's so gracious.
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_01]: She just let me in.
[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I totally had the time wrong.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It was my fault.
[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry but I'm very, very angry.
[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I could have sworn I put Eastern Standard Time
[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_08]: but I wasn't thinking I've been all over the place
[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_08]: this week.
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_08]: No worries.
[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I am glad you all just said yes on a same, no worries.
[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Introduce yourself to the ladies real quick
[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_08]: and we have jumped into three of the questions
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_08]: so I'll pull you in for the last three.
[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, awesome.
[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What would you like me to include in my introduction?
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything?
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you want us to know.
[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well my name is Kimberly Christian
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm a faith-based clinical social worker,
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: practicing in the great and hot state of Texas.
[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's right now.
[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably, yay!
[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Got some other Texans in the room.
[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Really excited about it cooling off eventually
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: but I don't know when that's gonna happen.
[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So I love therapy.
[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I love Jesus with all my heart
[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and I have, I think, successfully combined
[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_01]: those two things together.
[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I just launched an online program earlier this year
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: called The Christian Method
[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and it is an on-demand online class.
[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_01]: People can work at their own pace
[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_01]: where they learn cognitive behavioral therapy
[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: from a biblical worldview.
[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So I am super excited about that,
[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to get the word out about that.
[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I also am a wife of almost 20 years.
[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I have four children
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_01]: which is another reason why I tend to run late.
[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I am just all over the place
[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to get everybody where they need to go
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: which can be very difficult
[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: because my husband is working.
[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: How many of you guys have ever heard of
[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: the ministry by Mike Winger called Bible Thinker?
[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody heard of that before?
[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: No?
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So pleased to share this with you.
[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So you guys, if you are believers,
[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_01]: if you are interested in that kind of thing,
[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: his whole ministry is about
[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: how to think biblically about everything
[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and the reason why I'm bringing him up
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: is very graciously they have decided to align with me
[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: just in the last couple of weeks
[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_01]: to let me be a mental health consultant with them
[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: because they get a ton,
[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: a ton of questions that come in about,
[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you can imagine everything under the sun
[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but when it comes to counseling
[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and things that are related to mental health
[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I could tell that there was a little bit of a gap
[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: in answering those things thoroughly.
[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I put myself out there
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and they said yes
[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm really grateful to be doing that.
[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted to offer that plug
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: for any of you guys
[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: that maybe you work with somebody
[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_01]: or you are somebody
[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that just would really benefit from that ministry,
[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I know I've learned a ton from them.
[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm happy to be here.
[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I am so excited to have you.
[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So we went through a couple of questions
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_08]: but we're gonna move on
[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_08]: with the one that we're on right now
[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and we're gonna move over to Jamie.
[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie, do you wanna answer our last question
[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_08]: with the massive layoffs
[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and all that good stuff
[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and our economy being in a delicate place?
[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_08]: How do you feel about launching a business right now?
[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Cause you're a writer, you ghost write
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_08]: or freelance write I believe as well.
[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_08]: How do you feel about that?
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And I know you just published your book as well.
[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I am sitting here trying not to squirm with happy
[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: because I am very passionate about this topic.
[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I was laid off from my journalism job 15 years ago
[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and I started Jamie's notebook,
[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_02]: which is my writing business.
[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And ultimately when I first started it,
[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I told myself it was to get writing clips
[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_02]: that weren't newspapers
[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_02]: so that I can get a job with another agency.
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But then my husband encouraged me eventually
[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to just take it to be my full-time only job.
[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so grateful for that
[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_02]: for so many different reasons of the flexibility,
[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the fact that I now live with,
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I already had disability,
[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but a disability,
[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but a now I live with chronic illness.
[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And so being self-employed has allowed me to continue that
[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_02]: instead of having to completely quit the workplace.
[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that as someone who has faced
[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_02]: in the last major economic crisis,
[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I faced needing to start my own business.
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's a wise thing for women to do.
[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it provides us not only with more income,
[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_02]: but it also provides us with a way out of the situation
[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_02]: if we are forced out.
[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Shanti, I see you on the move a lot.
[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And just what Jamie just said,
[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_08]: someone said that to me yesterday,
[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we as people, not just as women,
[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_08]: we need to have multiple strains of income.
[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I see you doing that, you're out there all the time.
[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know when you sleep.
[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_08]: When you think about the question.
[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_07]: That are challenges when it comes to having your own business.
[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I would never tell someone not to start a business
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_07]: unless they are not serious.
[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_07]: You have to be serious, you have to be committed.
[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I do not sleep.
[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And as a matter of fact, when we get off of here,
[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll be napping.
[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_07]: But I still maintain my nine to five,
[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_07]: along with what I do as a mental health coach.
[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's what's funding my business along with my clients.
[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_07]: So I would never say, no, don't start a job.
[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't start a job unless you just...
[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not about the money per se.
[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_07]: The money is going to come.
[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_07]: You're passionate about what you're doing
[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_07]: and you're helping people.
[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_07]: You're really helping people
[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_07]: and not just trying to take the money.
[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_07]: The money's going to come.
[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even worry about the money.
[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_07]: But because my nine to five finances,
[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_07]: my lifestyle and all that stuff,
[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_07]: you have to be resilient, you have to be creative
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_07]: and you have to be willing to constantly learn.
[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not just taking what you know right now
[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_07]: and thinking it's going to carry you over,
[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and then you have to know on the pivot.
[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_07]: And keep doing the same thing all the time
[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_07]: and expecting, you know, strange...
[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Like I said, multiple strings of income.
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_07]: You name it, I do it.
[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_07]: And that is because...
[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_07]: That's because I have a message
[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_07]: that I need to get out there.
[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_07]: So you do whatever it takes.
[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Like for me personally,
[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I am very committed to what I do.
[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_07]: And if that means that I'm not going to sleep,
[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_07]: that means me missing parties and all this other stuff,
[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to miss it.
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Because my purpose is greater than those temporary things.
[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_07]: This is a legacy for my children and grandchildren.
[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, Sam, and with her saying that, the legacy is me.
[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_08]: How about you, Henea?
[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Because that's her brand, the legacy is me, guys.
[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_08]: For that...
[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes.
[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_06]: I just had trademarked this year.
[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_06]: It finally went through.
[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_06]: If you ever trademarked anything, it's a process and it's expensive.
[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I just had that officially done.
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's finally mine.
[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And the very high level summary,
[00:58:34] [SPEAKER_06]: what the legacy is me means is that you can write your own...
[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_06]: You can write your own legacy.
[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_06]: You can be the author of your own life.
[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_06]: My auntie who raised me was a very wicked woman
[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_06]: and she often used to say,
[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_06]: remember your parents left no legacy behind.
[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Remember your parents left nothing behind,
[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_06]: they left no legacy.
[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_06]: She said that every day to my siblings and I.
[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_06]: And I remember thinking, she's wrong.
[00:58:59] [SPEAKER_06]: That was just God-given.
[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: I always knew that she was wrong
[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_06]: about everything she said to me
[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_06]: and everything the vile wicked things she did.
[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_06]: I always knew she was wrong.
[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_06]: And it wasn't until I was in my late 20s,
[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I was a nurse and I had just started Ursane Pills
[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_06]: and I had done all these great things.
[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought, wait a minute, I'm a nurse.
[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_06]: I have a nonprofit.
[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_06]: I have a kid that I'm doing my best with.
[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm a ride or die friend.
[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm all these things.
[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Wait a minute, the legacy is me.
[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm the legacy.
[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm what they left behind.
[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm the legacy.
[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_06]: It was literally like a carcass.
[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It was an Oprah moment, a ha moment.
[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_06]: I was working night shift as a nurse
[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and I literally had that moment
[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_06]: and I was like on my feet, like wow, amazing.
[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_06]: So about the business question,
[00:59:51] [SPEAKER_06]: I would say what my advice,
[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_06]: because many come to me for advice
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_06]: because I've sort of done it all.
[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_06]: When I started Ursane Pills, many told me,
[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_06]: why don't you join a nonprofit?
[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_06]: March of Dimes, my mission is,
[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_06]: was mother and child related.
[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_06]: March of Dimes does that every day.
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_06]: Susan G. Coleman, join a cause that already exists.
[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I just knew that I wanted to do my own thing
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_06]: and I knew that like you were saying Victoria,
[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I knew that my mission here,
[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_06]: one of the things I was destined to was Ursane Pills.
[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I just knew and I just,
[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I pioneered and I trucked through,
[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_06]: could I have gotten more support?
[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a saying that, I'm gonna say it wrong,
[01:00:35] [SPEAKER_06]: but men are judged by their potential
[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: and women are judged by their accomplishments.
[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that is what the saying is.
[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's, I think it's very true.
[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I had to prove myself.
[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_06]: I had to run a nonprofit for 12 years
[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_06]: to now have a seat at all these different tables
[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_06]: where people come to me and ask me for my opinion
[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_06]: because I have been on many a podcast
[01:01:04] [SPEAKER_06]: and many a forum and I'm the only one there
[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_06]: who started a nonprofit that's sustainable
[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's 12 years old.
[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_06]: So that experience that I now have under my wings
[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_06]: has given me the grit and the confidence
[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_06]: to feel like I have a seat along
[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_06]: with all the other men in the room,
[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_06]: though I always believed I did here and here
[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I had to prove myself.
[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's unfortunate, but that's changing.
[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_06]: All you gotta do is get on TikTok like I was saying
[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_06]: and you'll see that the Gen Z doesn't have the same traumas
[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_06]: that we had when we were younger.
[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_06]: They know and they believe, all the women believe
[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_06]: and know that they are great women.
[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_06]: What I would say is that to start a business
[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_06]: what is your end game?
[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Because everybody can pick up a business
[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_06]: but what is your end game?
[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_06]: What is your goal?
[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Because if you're just gonna start something
[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_06]: get excited about it and then you hear crickets
[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_06]: after three months and then let it go.
[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a lot of waste of time, money, et cetera.
[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_06]: And we've all done that.
[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_06]: We've all been real excited about something
[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_06]: it didn't take off the way we wanted it to
[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_06]: and then now maybe we had to let it go.
[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So I would give advice in terms of what is your end game?
[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_06]: What are you hoping for the business to do?
[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_06]: What are you willing to give up?
[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_06]: As Shanti was saying, she said,
[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_06]: has to give up her sleep, is it worth it?
[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_06]: But I live in the no regret zone.
[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't believe in regrets.
[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_06]: So if I really want to do something, I'm gonna do it.
[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And I would rather take the risk than lose the chance.
[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I would tell that person,
[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_06]: I would tell that young woman, is it worth it?
[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Is it worth it for you to have no sleep,
[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_06]: to lose your money, to be told a million,
[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_06]: nose and and and and and for your end game?
[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And if it's not worth all those things, don't do it.
[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_06]: But if it's worth it, whether or not
[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_06]: you try to go or succeed, whether you succeed or not,
[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_06]: will you regret?
[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_06]: That's what I always ask myself when I self-mother
[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_06]: about any decision, will you regret it?
[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you will by not trying, then go for it.
[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Go for it.
[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And if you fail like a baby learning to walk,
[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_06]: you'll get up again and try again.
[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_08]: This has been the conclusion of part one
[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_08]: of the Queens Table Talk presented by 12th Street Talk Back.
[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Guys, this episode was amazing, amazing, amazing.
[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_08]: And it was so long.
[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I had to chop it up into a part one and a part two.
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[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Otherwise, September the 5th, stay tuned for part two
[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_08]: of the Queens Table Talk.
[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_08]: You don't want to miss this second half
[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_08]: of this amazing conversation with these beautiful,
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